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Title: Chinese October 1st Military Parade


gamer_1001 - October 2, 2009 03:57 AM (GMT)
For those who don't know, since the Chinese army is a secretive lot, every ten years they show off their equipment for the National Day...And this year they got tons of new toys. One of the biggest gun in this parade is the CJ-10 cruise missile, a Chinese response to BGM-109 Tomahawk. I guess this list will give modders tons of new things to experienment with eh?

gamer_1001 - October 2, 2009 04:38 AM (GMT)
The youtube playlist for the military parade, started off with Chinese President Reviewing the troop, then 52 formations marching...For those who don't understand Chinese, the marching list in chronological order:

3 Branch ceremonial guard
Army officier cadet
Infantry
Special operation force (Sharp Sword unit)
Navy officier cadet
(Submariner cadet)/Sailor
Marine corps (airbrone, land, underwater warfare capable)
Air officier cadet
Airborne (Korean War Triangle Hill hero company)
Second Artillery (ballistic missile force) cadet
3 Branch woman ceremonial guard
People's armed police
Reserve force (represent all branches)
Woman militia (Are you guys going to put those pretty girls in the mod? :P )
ZTZ99 main battle tank
ZTZ96A main battle tank
ZBD2000 amphibious tank (Army)
ZBD-97 infantry fighting vehicle
ZBL-08/09 infantry fighting vehicle (brand new, looks like Chinese Stryker)
ZBD2000 amphibious fighting vehicle (Marine)
ZLC2000 airborne infantry fighting vehicle
ZSL-92 anti-riot infantry fighting vehicle
Type 05 155mm self-propelled howitzer
Type 07/89 122mm self-propelled howitzer
PLL05 120mm self-propelled mortar-howitzer
PTL02 100mm tank destroyer
PHL03 300mm multiple launch rocket system
HJ-9 anti-tank missile system
Type 95 self-propelled anti-aircraft artillery
HQ-7 surface-to-air missile
HQ-16 surface-to-air missile
YJ-83 anti-ship missile
YJ-62 shore to ship cruise missile
HQ-9 surface-to-air missile
HQ-12/KS-1 surface-to-air missile
Radar and electronic warfare
Signal and communication
ASN series tactical unmanned aerial drones
Logistic and Engineer
DF-15 short range ballistic missile
DF-11 short range ballistic missile
CJ-10 land attack cruise missile
DF-21 medium range ballistic missile
DF-31 intercontinental ballistic missile
KJ-2000 early warning aircraft with J-7 escort
KJ-200 early warning aircraft with J-11 escort
Xian H-6H cruise missile bomber
Xian H-6 tanker refueling J-10
Xian H-6 tanker refueling J-8
JH-7A fighter-bomber
J-8F interceptor fighter
Chengdu J-10 multirole fighter
Shenyang J-11 multirole fighter
Changhe Z-8 transport helicopter
Harbin Z-9WA recon helicopter
Harbin Z-9W attack helicopter
Hongdu JL-8 Jet Trainer
Unknown nuclear sub
Type 022 missile boat
Type 052C destroyer
Type 054A frigate

gamer_1001 - October 2, 2009 04:52 AM (GMT)
For those Battlefield 2 nut, as shown from this parade, the WZ-10 attack helicopter program is completely stalled (if not stopped), and the WZ551 IFV is out of fashion in the Chinese Army (Police still use it as mobile water cannon and SWAT van though)

Everyone in the formations, except the reserve, special op and the militia formation uses Type-95 rifle or cabrine. Reserve uses Type-81 rifle, militia uses Type 79 SMG, and special op uses QCW-05 suppressed SMG.

The army and the air force uses digitial camo pattern.

Correction: Airborne uses folding stock Type-03 rifle, the armed police uses some kind of combat shotgun...

OnkelSam - October 2, 2009 07:27 AM (GMT)
Hey there. Thanks a lot for your input again. We'll investigate your sources.

Though, Currently we are using Type 56 Rifles for the Militia squads.

Regarding the digital pattern for vehicles. We might consider it for some unique call in vehicles, but we won't use it for the general vehicle. One of the main reasons, is the workload, that this pattern will produce. All those cubes have to be horizontally alligned for example . Infantry will get digital pattern though...
We want to finish this mod before the next century, so some compromise have to be made :D

But we are sure, that you will like the result in the end

gamer_1001 - October 2, 2009 02:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (OnkelSam @ Oct 2 2009, 07:27 AM)
We want to finish this mod before the next century, so some compromise have to be made :D

No problem, just throwing out ideas for the mod to make it more exciting...

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Though, Currently we are using Type 56 Rifles for the Militia squads.


Well, in 1999 military parade, the Militia uses Mosin–Nagant! :o

OnkelSam - October 2, 2009 02:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gamer_1001 @ Oct 2 2009, 02:03 PM)

No problem, just throwing out ideas for the mod to make it more exciting...

Thats fine, keep them coming :D

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Though, Currently we are using Type 56 Rifles for the Militia squads.


Well, in 1999 military parade, the Militia uses Mosin–Nagant! :o

The Mosin-Nagant is a bolt action-rifle though, and we want them to use an SMG-like gun. Even, if it is historically not 100% accurate, we thought the Type 56 would fullfill this role quite well.

In addition, parades are to be taken with a pinch of salt. The equipment is often not that accurate, cause they want to show the best stuff they have. But not everyone is equiped with it in reality.

gamer_1001 - October 2, 2009 02:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (OnkelSam @ Oct 2 2009, 02:25 PM)
In addition, parades are to be taken with a pinch of salt. The equipment is often not that accurate, cause they want to show the best stuff they have. But not everyone is equiped with it in reality.

Well, with the Chinese army, parade are the best gauge on how the soldiers are equiped at the moment...Trust me, all those stuff on the parade will be all you can see from the PLA the next 10 years...the Pentagon will do massive Chinese military assessment after this show.



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