Press Release 3 comments and Suggestions

I really like the idea with the tents for the US, although looking through the different units and differences between the two factions, I have to say that the Americans seem a bit bare... Maybe its cause they will have many more upgrades and abilities that have not been listed. They have 10 different units, meanwhile the Chinese have 14!

Putting these facts aside I would like to say great job, and I look forward to seeing these models fully skinned and placed in game.... when the object editor gets released

as i stated in an earlier post the American unit list is wrong. the HUMMMVE is going out of service along with many traditional army equipment. this would be OK if the mod took place during the early 2000 but to much is being changed to use the classic equipment.

and whats with the strikers! just make one and have an upgrade to select witch variant you want, and wheres the M1 Abrams that tank is the back bone of the US armour! its a main battle tank taking it away is like taking away the US Sherman in vanilla COH.

and the Bradly, come on that's a light tank it cant fill the role of a main battle tank, its gun is an anti infantry auto cannon! wonder why its called a Bradly Infantry fighting vehicle, is a infantry support tank.
the Bradly should be in the mechanized tent not armour.

now on to infantry, 2 INFENTRY SQUADS! that's not the us army.
first of no at infantry, make the normal squad upgradeable to incorporate the rocket launcher maby have it require an upgrade like the PE panzer grenadier.

Snipers!
Fire support squads: Solders with a variety of heavy weapon upgrades (LMG, Grenade launcher/maby javelin) standard weapon should be M4 Carbine
Airborne: we still use them bring them back (uses M16A1 or M4 Carbine)

and where is the artillery, all i see is a mortar tank.

that's it for my complaint.

i love it


i think it doesnt have to be super up to date as long as its not cold war era or something so GO YEAR 2000!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep in mind that there are still doctrinal units, and that these trees are subject to change, and keep giving ideas

Keep in mind that we don't want to create the most realistic modern simulation, but we want to create a Mod for a GAME. ...

Without commenting on design suggestions (this is done internally) i just want to give you an idea of the progress behind creating these techtrees....

It was NOT that we were searching for the most cool stuff in each nations weaponry, but it was that we were creating the tech-tree in a way we wanted the game to play out and then in the end searched for equipment and units that can be used for the kind of units we wanted to have. It will not work the other way around, if you want to create a game that works like a game and not like a simulation....

But to cool you down a bit, like Kenny said, this is only the techtree and there are several other units in the doctrines. You will see your Abrams and so on, no worries...

Personally, I'm not a big fan of Strykers, but they are in wide use by the U.S. army, so they and their variants (most of them, not all) will be used. Because there are so many variants of the Stryker, it wouldn't be logical getting 4-5 upgrades for 1 vehicle.

We appreciate the comments, however understand that the US military does not have a huge variety of ground vehicles right now to choose from, if you can think of any additional vehicles we could add, we welcome any suggestions

well there's the .....

M113 Armored Personnel Carrier
M109 howitzer
Dragon Fire (mortar)
M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System
MTVR (Medium Tactical Vehicle Replacement)
LAV-25
Amphibious Assault Vehicle (AAV)

not counting recovery vechiles, mobile bridges, supply trucks etc

M113 Armored Personnel Carrier - is in 2� line service, i think
M109 howitzer - is present
Dragon Fire (mortar) - ok
M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System - is too power
MTVR (Medium Tactical Vehicle Replacement) - ok
LAV-25 - we have the strykers
Amphibious Assault Vehicle (AAV) - is pointless

For the infantry I think this:

Combat Engineers (3 or 4 men squad)
engineer - M4

Upgrade:
- M4 Super 90 shotgun
- demolition charges or C4 explosive

Anti-Tank Squad (3 men squad)
2 soldier - M4
1 soldier - FGM-148 Javelin

Riflemen (or Infantry) (5 men squad)
Squad leader - M4 and comunicator
4 Soldier - M16A2

Upgrade (only one at the same time):
- marksman: one member take a M21 and the squad have a power like british sniper;
- grenadier: one member take a M16A2/M203 the squad have a grenade launcher power likes greandes but different;
- heavy gunner: a member of the squad take a M249 SAW* or AT4 the squad have a power likes volksgrenadiers panzefaust

*for this power i think is better a upgrade likes BAR upgrade.

For the aspect i think a light equipment (or a euipment like assault class in BF2): a interceptor body armor with 2/4 pockets a little bag on the back and a M9 bayonet
For the uniform a ACU or Woodland pattern uniform

P.S. I'm a Italian COH fan and so I'm sorry for my english because it isn't my native language and I hope this suggestion will be take in consideration, if it is of your pleasure, I'm will be happy

the woodland camo is out of service, is only the Universal camo (ACU)

only modern US fraction that doesn't use Some sort of universal camo is the marines, as they have MARPAT variants for every environment.

Though if you are doing a 2000 version use the woodland camo and the army 3 color desert.

also if this is modern replace Humvee with cougar/MRAP, but if its 2000 use Humvee.

also for close air support use the f-35 and f-22 fighter planes as they are replacing the old strike fighters.

i know all this for my extensive research for my mod and if you want my sources i will provide them

it's true the woodland pattern is out of service... ops

for the other information, thanks

for an eventually background story i think ad the invasion of Taiwan by China. what do you think about? If this si of your interst i can prepare a story line for the maps or eventually single player game.


P.S. Can we insert a Styker ATGM variants for the second doctrine power for the mechanized command?

Hey guys.
Thanks for your interest and suggestions. We have noticed them...

Just to make things clear. We are not aiming for a 100% realistic version of the modern combat scenario, with exactly up to date equipment. We formed an outline before we decided which unit will fullfill each role. We then started to search for modern equipment and Vehicles we could use to reflect the unit we were thinking of in this outline....
So its not so important, if this specific unit is still in service or just got replaced 1 year ago or whatever.
Gameplay >> realilsm =)

But its still helpfull to increase the pool of possible stuff with your suggestions. This just makes it easier for us to find the right things to use. ...

Keep it coming.

China seems not to have any stationary defense sites like the US. Why not?^^

Not everything is included in the outline yet

All right...

US: let's add some more newer armor, american is in the 21st century man... it gotta have armor.... Challenger 3 strike tank, the sneaky SHRIKE light tank, Centurion Tank, MLRS 3

artillery: Conventional ThunderBird Missiles, JSPOD Bombs, ThermoNuclear Missiles, The Hydrogen Bomb

Infantry: The Marines Sharpshooters, Main GI infantry

Special Bombing plans: Carpet Bombing by B17 Stratofortress and Flying Fortress, Laser Bombs by F-A111 Steath Bomber

that is what i can think of for US for now.... Dunno wat the above stuff is??? GOOGLE IT